franksfat&slow&wank
10:02 Thu Feb 5
Re: Clarke Carlisle fighting for life
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That is a fair point Saul
Not sure I agree doing it which could potentially mess other peoples heads up is fair albeit these are people not thinking straight ?
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Saul Bollox
10:00 Thu Feb 5
Re: Clarke Carlisle fighting for life
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WHOicidal Maniac 5:40 Thu Feb 5
Mr Kenzo 5:41 Thu Feb 5
Whufc06 5:41 Thu Feb 5
Big Tel 5:43 Thu Feb 5
Not bollox at all. The devastation caused to the lives of train drivers, lorry drivers etc. etc. by selfish fuckers like Carlisle is appalling. That's without the inconvenience caused to other train or road users.
If I reached the stage where i wanted to end it all, it would be alcohol and painkillers which is clean,effective, pain free and not at all selfish.
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David L
9:53 Thu Feb 5
Re: Clarke Carlisle fighting for life
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Does the depression have anything to do with his appearance on Countdown?
Sorry if its been mooted previously.
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franksfat&slow&wank
9:47 Thu Feb 5
Re: Clarke Carlisle fighting for life
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/31142797
Bloody awful
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Hammer29
8:33 Thu Feb 5
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Private Dancer 5:47 Thu Feb 5
Don't think anyone is saying he isn't. Doesn't mean to say said opinion isn't extremely ill informed and naive!
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Marston Hammer
6:36 Thu Feb 5
Re: Clarke Carlisle fighting for life
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What's that Mr Fritzl? You were depressed. Ok, run along you little scamp *ruffles hair*
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Whufc06
6:34 Thu Feb 5
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It is possible to sympathise will all parties concerned surely?
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charleyfarley
6:33 Thu Feb 5
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whoicidal not disagreeing mate, but if he is not in control it is down to others who are in control to stop him doing damage to himself or others
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Mr Polite
6:21 Thu Feb 5
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'What if Carlisle was your son?'
to be fair it'd explain hi sdepression :-(
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Kearley
6:19 Thu Feb 5
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Being depressed must be seriously bad news, but it does not entitle you to go round doing whatever the fuck you like to other people.
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Marston Hammer
6:13 Thu Feb 5
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'What if Carlisle was your son?'
I'd be extremely suspicious that my missus had been cheating on me.
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WHOicidal Maniac
6:06 Thu Feb 5
Re: Clarke Carlisle fighting for life
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"is how far does the sympathy stretch?"
What if Carlisle was your son? How far would your sympathy stretch then.?..
I understand what suicide does to the people around, those who find the body or godforbid drives in to one of these poor desperate people but these people who do these actions are not IN their right minds. Its not that they are deliberately being a cunt by disrupting peoples day by running under a bus, its that there is nothing else in their minds other than ending their internal torment.
You can not have enough sympathy and compassion for people who survive a suicide and then have to pick up the pieces of the misery they have caused themselves and others around them.
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charleyfarley
6:03 Thu Feb 5
Re: Clarke Carlisle fighting for life
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You can still have sympathy for depression but under the mental health act he should be committed as a danger to himself or others, or his wife should keep the car keys in a safe.
He is clearly not in control
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Marston Hammer
5:58 Thu Feb 5
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I think the point a fair few on here are making (and ralf little did too) is how far does the sympathy stretch? Is any behaviour acceptable if he uses the 'd' word?
He ruined the lorry driver's life? It's not his fault, he was depressed, he wasn't thinking straight.
Drink driving numerous times? Chalk that up to depression .
As I said earlier, if the whole drink driving 5 times thing is true then I hope he gets sent down. The roads will be safer if he's banged up.
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Private Dancer
5:52 Thu Feb 5
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''If someone purposely caused a car accident that hurt a hair on my daughters head, I'd kill myself, depressed or not''
Exactly. Some of the apologists on here need to have a think about that. Fwiw, I think the bloke is a grade A wanker, if that offends anyone they can suck my left nut.
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Private Dancer
5:47 Thu Feb 5
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Bollox is just as entitled to give an opinion as much as anyone else is. Some of you lot need to get your heads around that.
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Kearley
5:45 Thu Feb 5
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"I'd kill HIM myself"..I mean.
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WHOicidal Maniac
5:44 Thu Feb 5
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Saul, I have posted this before on other threads of this type and its always worth reposting...
“The so-called ‘psychotically depressed’ person who tries to kill herself doesn’t do so out of quote ‘hopelessness’ or any abstract conviction that life’s assets and debits do not square. And surely not because death seems suddenly appealing. The person in whom Its invisible agony reaches a certain unendurable level will kill herself the same way a trapped person will eventually jump from the window of a burning high-rise. Make no mistake about people who leap from burning windows. Their terror of falling from a great height is still just as great as it would be for you or me standing speculatively at the same window just checking out the view; i.e. the fear of falling remains a constant. The variable here is the other terror, the fire’s flames: when the flames get close enough, falling to death becomes the slightly less terrible of two terrors. It’s not desiring the fall; it’s terror of the flames. And yet nobody down on the sidewalk, looking up and yelling ‘Don’t!’ and ‘Hang on!’, can understand the jump. Not really. You’d have to have personally been trapped and felt flames to really understand a terror way beyond falling.”
― David Foster Wallace
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Kearley
5:44 Thu Feb 5
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Maniac, Kenzo
While I feel sorry for people that suffer this, imagine if the lorry had swerved to miss him and took out a car filled up with your family and killed them all?
Saul may have been blunt, but he has a point. Plenty of options without endangering others.
If someone purposely caused a car accident that hurt a hair on my daughters head, I'd kill myself, depressed or not.
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Big Tel
5:43 Thu Feb 5
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Saul Bollox
You fucking idiot.
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Whufc06
5:41 Thu Feb 5
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WHOicidal Maniac 5:40 Thu Feb 5
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